Paul Haggis prompts Church to cancel Disconnect policy – again

For the second time in a little over a year, church of Scientology honcho David Miscavige’s handpicked spokesman Tommy Davis has stated unequivocally that there is no policy of enforced “disconnection” in Scientology.  Yesterday Davis was quoted in an Associated Press story in response to Paul Haggis’ resignation letter that the church does not “mandate” that church members disconnect from anyone:

Haggis also said he was “shocked” that the Church of Scientology was publicly denying that it adheres to a policy of disconnection — of severing ties with a friend or family member who’s antagonistic toward Scientology. Haggis said that his wife, Deborah Rennard, was given precisely those orders and didn’t speak to her parents for more than a year.

Davis again disagreed with Haggis and said the church doesn’t mandate disconnection with anybody and that it was an entirely “self-determined decision.”

Last year Davis said essentially the same thing to John Roberts on CNN:

TD: …Scientology really mandates, and it is really part of the code of being a Scientologist, to respect the religious beliefs of others. So, certainly, somebody who is a Scientologist is going to respect their family members’ beliefs, and we consider family to be a building block of any society.  So, anything that characterizes disconnection and this kind of thing, it is just not true. There is not any such thing in the church that is dictating who people should or should not be in communication with. You know… It just does not happen.

I have some advice to those who are having their lives messed with by Church of Scientology officials mandating they remain out of communication with certain friends, associates and loved ones.  Take the quotations above, print them off, and hand them to whoever it is that has mandated you not associate with certain others.  Tell them, “sorry, you’ve been trumped by the Chairman of the Board’s spokesperson. If it is not in writing it isn’t true. It will take a written order from Miscavige himself to countermand what I have just handed you, in writing, from Miscavige’s right hand boy.”

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46 responses to “Paul Haggis prompts Church to cancel Disconnect policy – again

  1. Oh thats brilliant Marty!

  2. Great handling Marty! Thank you.

    The truth is that those who are made to disconnect from their friends/family are forced to do so in a way that they are threatened by the church terminal telling them ” You are not able to take your next step on the Bridge to Freedom if you are connected to the suppressive person. This is your “eternity”. What are you going to do about it?”
    Then the person goes into fear of losing her/his Bridge and eternity so he/she goes ahead and disconnects from the so called “SP” against his will. This is why Tommy calls it a “self-determined decision”.

    • More than that: if you don’t disconnect from a Suppressive Person your spouse and children will be doomed too as they too are considered connected to that Person through you. Not only they too will be denied Church services but possibly banned from Scientology’s owned workplaces and schools and ostracized by their scientologist friends.

      Imagine what a wonderful world this would be in the hands of the current Church of Scientology, the “Miscavology” brand.

  3. Lol, it couldn’t hurt.

  4. Love it Marty!!

    Check Mate!

  5. This makes me so MAD. Tommy & Dave are the epitome of LIARs…. my mother said to me. ” I would never disconnect from you if it was up to me. But if they tell me I have to then I will have to. You know I would never do this on my own…..”

    The degree of brainwashing is so heavy that even this quote above would be somehow justified by my poor kool-aide drinking mother who would say, well he’s just saying that to the media because they wouldn’t understand, but I still have to do it. It’s like saying, well I still have to shoot myself in the head, I know that normal people wouldn’t understand but my brainwasher told me to do it, so I HAVE to do it.

    Sorry for the emotion – I don’t usually do this on this blog EVER. So I guess I can be forgiven for doing it once. Having been disconnected from by everyone I loved was the worst experience of my life.

  6. I had a close family member who WAS extremely antagonistic to my involvement with Scn. I did numerous “handles”. It was still a roller-coaster ride. After the education steps, I did a full PTS Rundown…….and then insisted that the cycle be taken to full completion with a suppressed person rundown. I was a staff member at the time, I ‘made it go right’ to pay for the counseling necessary. During the time of that auditing, I was required to ‘disconnect’. When the EP occurred, there was no longer any reason to remain “disconnected”. I enjoyed the remainder of my fathers life time with him. He enjoyed seeing his grand kids grow up.

    To me, THAT is what PTS handling is about – you are NO LONGER PTS. What it has turned in to under Miscavology, I do not understand, as it has NO semblance to the LRH tech I learned.

    The ogre that ate the church was its own failure to retain and practice the full technology as laid out in LRH tech.

    I guess that makes the Sea Org in its current incarnation a squirrel group at best.

  7. If someone is a true believer in something they should be able to look at different viewpoints and information and make informed decisions.

    There is no need to then “disconnect” from the person stating a different viewpoint. Particularly if they are a family member or friend.

    Since leaving, I have run into Born Again Christians and discussed religion with them and presented other views. They remained Christians after our discussion.

    My viewpoint however didn’t make me an enemy (although they may have thought I was going to Hell for not accepting Christ into my life). In fact we are still very close friends.

    Disconnection is such a crock and is all about control over followers and every Scientologist and former Scientologists knows that Tommy and DM are lying when they deny it is not Church policy.

    One of the biggest things that needs to change in my opinion and turns off more people to Scientology unnecessarily.

  8. Yeah when I was shown “Briefing to Review Auditors” a couple of years ago I almost “fell off my chair”, it said, basically, auditors who overun a pc have commited a suppressive action. So you don’t declare the auditor, but YOU DO handle it as a suppressive action or it remains an incomplete cycle. The orgs being “above” suppression is therefore squirrel, and chamoflages PTSness.

  9. I have been dreaming that the following “telex” has just gone out.:…does anybody think there is life left in the gulag? enough to do something? Here is what could come out:

    TLX – FSSO; FSO; ALL AO’S; ALL CLASS V ORGS; ALL MISSIONS; ALL FMS; ALL SCN PUBLIC.
    A. FORMER COB RTC HAS RESIGNED DUE TO US JUSTICE DEPT CHARGES – RACKETEERING; FRAUD, HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES, EMBEZZLEMENT AND MIS-USE OF CORPORATE FUNDS AND NUMEROUS OTHER CHARGES. SIMILAR CHARGES HAVE ALSO BEEN BROUGHT AGAINST ALL SCN CHURCHES AND CORPORATE ENTITIES ALL OF WHICH WILL COOPERATE WITH US JUSTICE DEPT FULLY TO SAVE THE CHURCH.
    SO FAR, ADDITIONAL ACTIONS HAVE BEEN TAKEN AT UPPER MGMT LEVELS INCLUDING:
    1. RE-POSTING ALL WDC, CMOI, CMO UNITS, RTC, GOLD, FB EXECS TO POSTS PRIOR TO DAVID MISCAVIGE ILLEGAL VERBAL REMOVALS, DECLARES AND RPF ASSIGNMENTS.
    2. PRIOR TO RE-POSTING, EACH EXEC WILL BE COMPLETING KNOWLEDGE REPORTS REGARDING ALL OFF-POLICY AND ILLEGAL ACTIONS OF FORMER LEADER DAVID MISCAVIGE. THESE KR’S WILL BE FORWARDED TO FBI FOR CURRENT LEGAL CASE WITH REQUEST FOR WHISTLE-BLOWER PROTECTION AND MERCY FROM THE COURT(S).
    3. ALL FORMER EXECS FROM ABOVE UNITS THAT ARE NO LONGER IN THE AREA, WHETHER CONSIDERED BLOWN, DECLARED OR OTHERWISE, ARE REQUESTED TO DO THEIR OWN KNOWLEDGE REPORTS AS WELL, TO BE SENT TO INT BASE ATTENTION RTC. THESE WILL BE FORWARDED TO FBI FOR USE IN COOPERATION WITH US DEPT OF JUSTICE ACTIONS. NOTE: THESE REPORTS WILL NOT BE HELD ONTO AND FORWARDED AS A PACKAGE, BUT SENT DAILY SO AS TO SPEED THIS URGENT JUSTICE CYCLE.
    4. RPF, DPF AND “THE HOLE” HAVE BEEN CANCELLED AS OFF POLICY, DESTRUCTIVE AND SUPPRESSIVE ACTIONS. RPF MAY BE RE-INSTITUTED ONLY AFTER FULL REVIEW OF ALL ACTUAL VALID POLICIES.
    5. IAS IS CANCELLED AND EVALUATION WILL BE DONE AS TO HANDLING OF ALL FUNDS ON DEPOSIT.
    6. NO FURTHER REAL ESTATE PROPERTY WILL BE AQUIRED FOR SERVICE ORGS OTHER THAN EXACTLY AS OUTLINED IN HCOPL BUILDING FUND ACCOUNT.
    7. ANY AND ALL DISCONNECTIONS OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF ALL STAFF AND PUBLIC FROM WHATEVER TIME PERIODS ARE SUSPENDED UNTIL FULL REVIEW OF EACH AND EVERY SINGLE CASE USING ONLY WRITTEN POLICY BY INDEPENDENT INTERNATIONAL BOARD WITH NO SENIORS ABLE TO ORDER ITS ACTIONS AND NO DURESS REGARDLESS OF CONSEQUENCES OF BOARD DECISION. INT BOARD WILL ASSIGN CONT LEVEL BOARDS TO ASSIST IN THESE DUTIES.
    8. ALL BOOKS, TAPES, MATERIALS SINCE “GOLDEN AGE OF TECH” HAVE BEEN CANCELLED AS SQUIRREL AND R-COMPS IS WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO RESTORE VALID TECH AND POLICY ONLY AND RE-INSERT ALL ALTER-IS AND DELETED ORIGINAL MATERIALS.
    B. WHILE CHURCH OF SCN MANAGEMENT IS RE-FORMING AND TAKING ABOVE ACTIONS, ALL SERVICE ORGS STAFF AND PUBLIC ARE ASKED TO ASSIST BY DOING THE FOLLOWING:
    1. PULL OUT ALL BOOKS, POLICIES AND MATERIALS PRIOR TO “GOLDEN AGE OF TECH” YOU CAN LAY YOUR HANDS ON.
    2. DO YOUR BEST TO APPLY THESE MATERIALS TO YOUR POSTS AND YOUR LIVES IN ORDER TO HELP YOURSELVES AND OTHERS.
    3. WRITE KNOWLEDGE REPORTS ON ANY OFF POLICY ACTIONS OR ILLEGAL OR VERBAL ORDERS FROM ANY ECHELON. ALSO WRITE KNOWLEDGE REPORTS ON ANY CRUSH SELL ACTIONS YOU HAVE WITNESSED OR PARTICIPATED IN.
    4. SEE THAT NO CRUSH SELL OCCURS. ANY SUCH OFF-POLICY REGISTRATION ACTIONS AGAINST ANYONE ARE TO CEASE. REGISTRARS ARE ALLOWED TO RE-SIGN EXISTING PUBLIC FOR NEXT SERVICE INCLUDING ANY VALID DONATION PACKAGE, WITH NO ILLEGAL DURESS.
    5. BOOK COMMISSIONS ARE CANCELLED UNLESS/UNTIL ORIGINAL NON-SQUIRREL VERSIONS OF MATERIALS ARE AVAILABLE TO BE SOLD. (BOOK ACCOUNT WAS NOT INTENDED TO REWARD THE SALES OF SQUIRREL MATERIALS).
    6. FSM AND REG COMMISSIONS ARE NOT CANCELLED BUT ARE PAYABLE ON ALL SERVICES PER POLICY.
    7. ALL SPECIAL ORG EVENTS ARE CANCELLED AS OFF POLICY ORDERS THAT PULL ORG STAFF, FSM’S AND PUBLIC OFF HAT AND STRAIN ORGANIZATIONS AND INDIVIDUAL FINANCES.
    8. NO PUBLIC IS TO BE ORDERED TO SEC-CHECKS, PREPS OR OTHER ACTIONS AS PER NON-INTERFERENCE HCOB’S AND PL’S.
    9. IT IS HOPED THAT ALL WILL MAKE A COMMITMENT TO HELP MAKE OUR CHURCH HONEST AND STRAIGHT AND REFUSE TO CONDONE ILLEGAL, INHUMANE OR OFF-POLICY ACTIONS.
    C. WE HOPE BY DOING ABOVE ACTIONS, WE CAN RE-FORM OUR CHURCH SO THAT OUR PUBLIC ACTIONS MIRROR OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS ACTIONS AND THAT WE CAN REGAIN PUBLIC TRUST THROUGH HONESTY AND TRANSPARENCY. WE RECOGNIZE THAT HELPING AND ACTUAL BETTERMENT ARE THE ONLY JUSTIFICATIONS FOR OUR EXISTENCE AS A CHURCH; WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT ENDS DO NOT JUSTIFY MEANS, NO MATTER WHAT.
    PLEASE HELP US TO GET THROUGH THIS TERRIBLE CHALLENGE.
    T/COB RTC AND STAFF
    P.S. ALL TITLES AND CORPORATE ENTITIES WILL RECEIVE FUTURE SORT-OUT AS WELL AS ABOVE. THE TITLE OF T/COB WILL BE USED TEMPORARILY ONLY, AND NO ORDERS WILL BE ISSUED OTHER THAN AUTHORIZED BY VALIDLY FORMED BOARD OF DIRECTOR MEETINGS.

    Is there a snowball’s chance in hell of such a thing?

  10. Christie,

    Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I completely understand how you feel. Miscavology tried its best to do the same with me and my family, but I spotted the actual SP (DM) and disconnected from him instead of my family. I wish your mom comes to her senses and de-PTSes herself from her actual SP (DM) and that group.
    I know it will happen sooner than you can imagine then you and mom will live happily ever after. DM (SP) will be behind bars soon.

  11. Hey Marty,

    Why not show just Davy a copy of HCOPL 15 November 1968 ‘Disconnection Canceled’……..

    Oops!

    Aright, alright never mind.

    We know Davy doesn’t read any of those.

  12. Marty please cancel my earlier post if you can, because I want to put this in its place:

    First I think it’s great that Scientology’s answer to Hitler and Goebbels have finally seen the error in their ways and are now back peddling on disconnection but the fact is that since 1968 the disconnection had already been canceled per policy and that an HCOB of questionable provenance has been used to justify disconnection for more than 25 years (since 82) even though an HCOB can not cancel policy per the HCOPLs ‘Seniority of Orders’ and ‘Policy, Source of’ .

    I write this because I myself Marty, do not ever, ever, ever, EVER want to fall into the same trap again that we have fallen into over the last 3 decades of following orders that conflict with policy because some asshole was wearing a lot of braid.

    NEVER!

    It’s great that these morons are finally waking up and smelling the coffee but let’s not step in that big yawning trap again!!!!!

  13. Yeah the correct application of the PTS RD and the SP RD would handle it, no question about it. DM is just the ne plus ultra of the squirreling at this time.

  14. Exactly, I had the same thought. If/when I get declared or non-enturb ordered for directing scientologists to the truth on this site and Thoughtful’s I will simply refer to Tommy’s own declaration- There is no Disconnection! By the same token, couldn’t any of you fine fellows talk to staff still up lines without retribution? Maybe an issue should be distributed amongst staff to make sure all SO also know Disconnection is cancelled. BTW, this site’s stats are showing a 43,000% increase in traffic over 3 months. Does this qualify as straight up and vertical?

  15. Jonathon Barbera

    I have lost count of the number of times in the last 15 years when a Scientologist in the church contacted me and then had to quickly flee after discovering my standing. These Church of Scientology public, staff and crew behaved as though they feared being contaminated.

    I even had a friend that I had known since High School look me up out of the blue, befriend me in a new unit of time and then formally disconnect from me per the direction of the local church.

    I thought perhaps the church wanted me to handle to declare. My original request for a Comm Ev was approved by the IJC of 1995 but it was never held. Two interviews with terminals in the office of the IJC regarding the A to E steps led no where with no explanation or program given.

    So for 15 years I have had people from the Church of Scientology pestering me only to then experience ~revulsion~ when they find out I am a declared SP.

    • Jonathon, DM dismantled justice lines in the early 90’s entirely. Imagine what would happen to the staff were they permitted to hear all your evidence, and tens of thousands of others who have been denied justice.

  16. Have you checked out what happened to Greg and Debra Barnes back in 2000? Not only were they declared for pointing out technical revisions by Miscavige (the infamous six month “refresher” sec checks), but the Cof$ then tried to ruin their business by forcing clients to disconnect. That’s called tortious interference.

    http://www.xenutv.com/blog/?p=163

  17. Tommy is really funny. How much is one intensive CL V in the US at the moment? If the average Scientologists pays USD 2.000 per year, how many years does it take to achieve Clear? Or did he mean only IAS Donations or Ideal Org Donations? How long does it take to go Clear?
    Here`s the churchs official statement out of the “What is Scientology.Org”:

    It varies from person to person, but it takes an average of anywhere from one year to two years to go from the bottom of the Grade Chart through Clear, depending on how much time one spends each week on his auditing. Those who participate in intensive auditing services and do not stop along the way progress the fastest.

    So if I understand him well, than he can produce a Clear in about 2 years and the person has to pay only USD 4.000.

    Is this correct?

  18. This is related from leaving scientology wordpress blog:

    Disconnection was reinstated by HCO Bulletin of 10 September 1983, “PTSness and Disconnection.” The Bulletin noted that “Earlier, disconnection as a condition was cancelled,” and stated it was “hereby restored to use, in the hands of those persons thoroughly and standardly trained in PTS/SP tech.”

    The only problem? It wasn’t written by LRH. According to a statement by the late Robert Vaughn Young, “…The directive that I wrote concerned the Scientology policy of ‘Disconnection.’ The order to do this came from David Miscavige. Miscavige said that we had to reinstitute the Policy of Disconnection and that I was to write the policy for this. I wrote it and it went through several revisions. It was not sent to Hubbard for his approval, but was issued into the Church of Scientology.”

  19. I’m not declared, but am a freeloader. I’ve received a few disconnection letters from life long friends, who were on OT VI, trying to get onto OT VII. Obviously, they were coached or ordered to disconnect by FSO. FSO, I know considers a Freeloader to be equalivent to an SP.

    It’s a fact.

  20. Speaking of PTS tech and disconnection, let’s examine the top of the org board and let’s see how overboard Int Management has gone:
    Even though a staff member at Int Management may have the PTS Rundown and the PTS S/P course under their belt, that staff member’s mail is opener and read before he gets it. Mail is intercepted and thrown out if there was critical content. All personal calls are listened in on – another staff member listens to you when you call your daughter – the call is also recorded. If you have experienced this and you know this to be true in other words you KNOW someone is listening in – your conversation with your family member is never “on the level” and the quality of the comm cycle is very poor at best! So the staffer in question is just not trusted. Despite that valuable staff members training and ability to handle problems as he should. He is placed at the position of effect and is told how to handle the situation which at Int management always means disconnection.
    This is wrong in so many ways…

  21. Horrible liars they are !
    My wife refused to disconnect from her Grandfather, who audited her up to clear (he was OT III and a certified class IV Auditor but choosed to be part of the freezone in the big exodus of 1982). He had decided to leave his body at the age of 82 as being terminatedly ill. My wife was assisting him and doing all the preparations for his leaving, funeral etc…She was ordered by HCO to disconnect from him while he was dying, she refused and was thrown out of the Org , even she was a succesful FSM. HCO then ordered all our friends to write disconnection letters to us (we got abou 12 letters), only 2 people refused to write those letters (nothing happened to them) and only 2 came some time later and apologized for having done it.
    We showed the letters to our kids, their remark was ” Those people are your friends !”. It was good, insofar that our kids since then don’t believe anymore everything what other Scientologists are telling them, they LOOK and evaluate themselves (poor regges and recruiters !)
    Nevertheless the funeral of her grandfather was a real OT funeral, with lots of fun (he wrote himself what the priest had to say and he had prepared every little detail before he left ).
    Those Scientologists were ordered to disconnect under threat they can’t continue on the bridge.
    David you lie, lie lie lie, lie ………………..
    We propably still the letters as proof !
    Liar !
    Why didn’t LRH leave his body in a way that most Scientologists would expect it ?
    What is the truth there ?????

    • LO, Well, here’s eleven more apologies, for the ten who never came around and for the org. Good for you on how you raised your kids.

  22. I get that those who have replied so far have been in Scientology and I don’t mean what I am about to write in ANY form of disrespect, but I noticed as I was reading the comments that to me, who has never involved herself in Scientology, all of the acronyms such as SP, PTS, IJC and descriptions such as “A to E steps” and “disconnections” seem like military covert ops chatter so to speak. It leaves me to wonder why the people in that whole thing don’t use terms in which EVERYONE (incl. those not in scientology) will be able to ascertain and have an idea what the whole teachings are about. This would also help Scientology appear less like it is brainwashing its followers by using terms such as “supressive person” and descriptions of courses/steps such as Bridge to Freedom.

  23. Aeoliana,
    For more undefined Scientologese, go to Religious Freedom Watch.

  24. Speaking of PTS tech and disconnection, let’s examine the top of the org board and let’s see how overboard Int Management has gone:
    Even though a staff member at Int Management may have the PTS Rundown and the PTS S/P course under their belt, that staff member’s mail is opener and read before he gets it. Mail is intercepted and thrown out if there was critical content. All personal calls are listened in on – another staff member listens to you when you call your daughter – the call is also recorded. If you have experienced this and you know this to be true in other words you KNOW someone is listening in – your conversation with your family member is never “on the level” and the quality of the comm cycle is very poor at best! So the staffer in question is just not trusted. Despite that valuable staff members training and ability to handle problems as he should. He is placed at the position of effect and is told how to handle the situation which at Int management always means disconnection.
    DM has turned our religion into a cult… The facts are that the safety of the staff is a concern. It would be wise for the government to step in and interview individuals at the Int Base individually and ask them if they are alright and if they want to leave assuring them that they will be protected. Make no mistake this should be proposed as a safety concern, kool-aid anyone? We do have a madman calling the shots, plenty people been physically and mentally abused – there are plenty of guns in the compound. Guards, razor fence etc., What more proof is needed… Doesn’t the State of California care? An investigation could be in order with consent of DM even to avoid another Waco incident or another Jonestown.

  25. For Aeoliana, here’s a website with definitions of most of the terms that are being used:

    http://www.st83.org/info/index.html

  26. Thanks Marty

  27. This whole disconnection policy even takes an ugglier turn, I was told that being a F/L was considered by FSO tantamount to being an SP (by an FSO staff member). Although there has been no disconnection by relatives there, they never visit us or call (if they ever manage to get a 3 week vacation, and I’m talking at least 2 decades). I suspect there is some hidden data line in preventing these family relations due to a F/L debt. This also gets so intense as to imagine that another long time FSO SO member told her kid that if any of her children were not Scientologists, she would disconnect from them. Can you imagine the degree of robotism control that a mother would even imagine communicating that to a child? I’m finding myself more protective for my kid from being trapped to the horrendously PTS environment of Miscaviage.
    When I was in the SO having non Scientology comm lines was sacrosanct and when I left I had to learn that there were actually some pretty decent wogs that weren’t “beneath me”. This was a very hard time as I had this “holier than though” viewpoint that had been engrained in me. It took me a long time to realize that I could have comm lines with people that weren’t Scientologists and I wasn’t “holier than thou”.

  28. I’ve been urging for years, all Scientology has to do to handle the disconnection problem is declare an unconditional international amnesty, and simultaneously STOP all future declaring anyone SP who is factually NOT an SP. That would eliminate all disconnections instantly, as no one would be SP anymore.

    With the supposed incredible expansion progress Tommy claims, that is justification enough for the amnesty.

    Scientology PR would go out through the roof, if:

    a) Unconditional Amnesty
    b) No more SP declaring
    c) Miscavige just absolutely cool it, implement The Way to Happiness to repair the abuse scene at the Int Base.
    d) Let people go do what they will!

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